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Defence Health HubLucy Hone talks about her own grief and recovery
Lucy Hone talks about her own grief and recovery
00:00
[Music]
00:05
[Applause]
00:09
[Music]
00:14
[Music]
00:16
so I'd like to start if I may by asking
00:19
you some questions if you've ever lost
00:23
someone you truly love ever had your
00:26
heart broken ever struggled through an
00:29
acrimonious divorce or being the victim
00:32
of infidelity please stand up if
00:35
standing up isn't accessible to you you
00:38
can put your hand up
00:39
please stay standing and keep your hand
00:42
up there if you've ever lived through a
00:45
natural disaster being bullied or me
00:47
made redundant stand on up if you've
00:50
ever had a miscarriage if you've ever
00:53
had an abortion or struggle through
00:56
infertility please stand up finally if
01:00
you or anyone you love has had to cope
01:04
with mental illness dementia some form
01:07
of physical impairment or cope with
01:09
suicide please stand up
01:12
look around you adversity doesn't
01:18
discriminate if you are alive you are
01:22
going to have to or you've already had
01:25
to deal with some tough times
01:28
thank you everyone take a seat I started
01:35
studying resilience research a decade
01:37
ago at the University of Pennsylvania in
01:40
Philadelphia it was an amazing time to
01:43
be there because the professors who
01:45
trained me had just picked up the
01:48
contract to train all 1.1 million
01:51
American soldiers to be as mentally fit
01:54
as they always have been physically fit
01:57
as you can imagine you don't get a much
02:00
more skeptical discerning audience than
02:03
the American drill sergeants returning
02:05
from Afghanistan so for someone like me
02:08
whose main quest in life is trying to
02:10
work out how we take
02:13
the best of scientific findings out of
02:15
academia and bring them to people in
02:17
their everyday lives it was a pretty
02:20
inspiring place to be I finished my
02:23
studies in America and I returned home
02:26
here to Christchurch to start my
02:29
doctoral research I just begun that
02:32
study when the Christchurch earthquakes
02:35
hit so I put my research on hold and I
02:39
started working with my home community
02:41
to help them through that terrible
02:44
post-quake period I work with all sorts
02:48
of organizations from government
02:49
departments to building companies and
02:52
all sorts of community groups teaching
02:54
them the ways of thinking and acting
02:57
that we know boost resilience I thought
03:01
that was my calling my moment to put all
03:05
of that research to good use but sadly I
03:10
was wrong for my own true test came in
03:15
2014 on queen's birthday weekend we and
03:19
two other families had decided to go
03:22
down to Lake ohel and bike the outs to
03:25
ocean at the last minute my beautiful
03:29
twelve-year-old daughter Abby decided to
03:32
hop in the car with her best friend Ella
03:34
also 12 and Ella's mom Sally a dear dear
03:38
friend of mine on the way down as they
03:42
traveled through require on Thompson's
03:44
track a car sped through a stop sign
03:48
crashing into them and killing all three
03:52
of them instantly in the blink of an eye
03:57
I find myself flung to the other side of
04:00
the equation waking up with a whole new
04:02
identity instead of being the resilience
04:05
expert suddenly I'm the grieving mother
04:09
waking up not knowing who I am
04:12
trying to wrap my head around
04:13
unthinkable news my world smashed to
04:17
smithereens
04:18
suddenly I'm the one on the end of all
04:21
this expert advice and I can tell you I
04:24
didn't like what I heard
04:26
little bit in the days after Abby died
04:30
we were told we were now prime
04:33
candidates for family estrangement that
04:36
we were likely to get divorced and we
04:39
were at high risk of mental illness Wow
04:42
I remember thinking thanks for that I
04:44
thought my life was already pretty [ __ ]
04:47
leaflets described the five stages of
04:50
grief
04:51
anger bargaining denial depression
04:53
acceptance victim support arrived at our
04:56
door and told us that we could expect to
04:58
write off the next five years to grief I
05:02
know the leaflets and the resources
05:05
meant well but in all of that advice
05:08
they left us feeling like victims
05:12
totally overwhelmed by the journey ahead
05:14
and powerless to exert any influence
05:16
over our grieving whatsoever I didn't
05:21
need to be told how bad things were
05:24
believe me I already knew things were
05:27
truly terrible what I needed most
05:30
was hope I needed a journey through all
05:36
that anguish pain and longing most of
05:40
all I wanted to be an active participant
05:43
in my grief process so I decided to turn
05:48
my back on their advice and decided
05:50
instead to conduct something of a self
05:53
experiment I'd done the research I had
05:56
the tools I wanted to know how useful
05:58
they were beating me now in the face of
06:00
such an enormous mountain to climb now I
06:04
have to confess at this point I didn't
06:07
really know any of this was going to
06:08
work
06:09
parental bereavement is widely
06:11
acknowledged as the hardest of losses to
06:15
bear but I can tell you now five years
06:19
on what I already knew from the research
06:22
that you can rise up from adversity that
06:27
there are strategies that work that it
06:30
is utterly possible to make yourself
06:33
think and act in certain ways that help
06:37
you navigate
06:39
tough times there is a monumental body
06:43
of research on how to do this stuff
06:45
today I'm just going to share with you
06:48
three strategies these are my go-to
06:51
strategies that I relied upon and saved
06:54
me in my darkest days there are three
06:57
strategies that underpin all of my work
06:59
and they're pretty readily available to
07:02
us all anyone can learn them you can
07:05
learn them right here today so number
07:08
one resilient people get that [ __ ]
07:12
happens they know that suffering is part
07:16
of life this doesn't mean they actually
07:18
welcome it in they're not actually
07:20
delusional just that when the tough
07:23
times come they seem to know that
07:27
suffering is part of every human
07:30
existence and knowing this stops you
07:33
from feeling discriminated against when
07:36
the tough times come never once did I
07:39
find myself thinking why me in fact I
07:43
remember thinking why not me terrible
07:46
things happen to you just like they do
07:48
everybody else that's your life now time
07:51
to sink or swim the real tragedy is that
07:55
not enough of us seem to know this any
07:58
longer we seem to live in an age where
08:00
we're entitled to a perfect life we're
08:02
shiny happy photos on Instagram are the
08:05
norm when actually as you all
08:08
demonstrated at the start of my talk the
08:12
very opposite is true
08:15
number two resilient people are really
08:21
good at choosing carefully where they
08:25
select their attention they have a habit
08:29
of realistically appraising situations
08:32
and typically managing to focus on the
08:35
things that they can change and somehow
08:38
accept the things that they can't this
08:43
is a vital learn herbal skill for
08:47
resilience as humans we are really
08:52
good at noticing threats and weaknesses
08:56
we are hard-wired for that negative
09:00
we're really really good at noticing
09:03
them negative emotions stick to us like
09:07
velcro whereas positive emotions and
09:10
experiences seem to bounce off like
09:12
Teflon being wired in this way is
09:16
actually really good for us and served
09:18
us well from an evolutionary perspective
09:20
so imagine for a moment I'm a cave woman
09:23
and I'm coming out of a cave in the
09:25
morning and there's a saber-toothed
09:27
tiger on one side and a beautiful
09:29
rainbow on the other it kind of pays for
09:32
my survival for me to notice this tiger
09:35
the problem is we now live in an era
09:38
where we are constantly bombarded by
09:41
threats all day long and our poor brains
09:44
treat every single one of those threats
09:48
as though they were a tiger our threat
09:52
focus our stress response is permanently
09:56
dialed up resilient people don't
10:00
diminish the negative but they also have
10:03
worked out a way of tuning in to the
10:07
good one day when doubts were
10:11
threatening to overwhelm me I distinctly
10:14
remember thinking no you do not get to
10:18
get swallowed up by this you have to
10:21
survive you've got so much to live for
10:24
choose life not death don't lose what
10:29
you have to what you have lost in
10:32
psychology we call this benefit finding
10:35
in my brave new world it involved trying
10:38
to find things to be grateful for at
10:41
least our week girl hadn't died of some
10:44
terrible long drawn-out illness she died
10:47
suddenly instantly sparing us and her
10:51
that pain we had a huge amount of social
10:55
support from family and friends to help
10:56
us through and most of all we still had
11:00
two beautiful boys to live for who
11:03
needed us now and
11:05
deserve to have as normal a life as we
11:08
could possibly give them being able to
11:12
switch the focus of your attention to
11:15
also include the good has been shown by
11:18
science to be a really powerful strategy
11:20
so in 2005 Marty Seligman and collies
11:24
conducted an experiment and they asked
11:27
people all they ask people to do was
11:30
think of three good things that had
11:32
happened to them
11:33
each day what they found over the six
11:37
months course of this study was that
11:39
those people showed higher levels of
11:41
gratitude higher levels of happiness and
11:43
less depression over the course of the
11:47
six months study when you're going
11:49
through grief you might need a reminder
11:52
or you might need permission to feel
11:55
grateful in our kitchen we've got a
11:57
bright pink neon poster that reminds us
12:00
to accept the good in the American army
12:03
they framed it a little bit differently
12:06
they talked to the army about hunting
12:09
the good stuff find the language that
12:11
works for you but whatever you do make
12:13
an intentional deliberate ongoing effort
12:18
to tune in to what's good in your world
12:21
number three resilient people ask
12:24
themselves is what I'm doing helping or
12:27
harming me this is a question that's
12:30
used a lot in good therapy and boy is it
12:34
powerful this was my go-to question in
12:38
the days after the girls died I would
12:41
ask it again and again should I go to
12:45
the trial and see the driver would that
12:48
help me or would it harm me well that
12:51
was a no-brainer for me I chose to stay
12:53
away but Trevor my husband decided to
12:56
meet with the driver at a later time
12:58
late at night I'd find myself sometimes
13:01
poring over old photos of a be getting
13:04
more and more upset I'd ask myself
13:07
really is this helping you or is it
13:10
harming you put away the photos go to
13:13
bed for the night be kind to yourself
13:17
this question can be applied to so many
13:19
different context is the way I'm
13:23
thinking and acting helping or harming
13:24
you in your bid to get that promotion to
13:29
pass that exam to recover from a heart
13:31
attack so many different ways I write a
13:36
lot about resilience and over the years
13:38
this one strategy has prompted more
13:41
positive feedback than any other I get
13:44
scores of letters and emails and things
13:45
from all over the place of people saying
13:47
what a huge impact it's had on their
13:50
lives whether it is forgiving family
13:53
ancient transgressions arguments from
13:56
Christmases past on whether it is just
13:59
trolling through social media whether it
14:02
is asking yourself whether you really
14:05
need that extra glass of wine asking
14:09
yourself whether what you're doing the
14:11
way you're thinking the way you're
14:13
acting is helping or harming you puts
14:17
you back in the driver's seat it gives
14:20
you some control over your
14:23
decision-making three strategies pretty
14:29
simple they're readily available to us
14:32
all Anytime Anywhere
14:35
they don't require rocket science
14:39
resilience isn't some fixed trait it's
14:43
not elusive that some people have and
14:45
some people don't
14:47
it's actually requires very ordinary
14:50
processes just the willingness to give
14:54
them a go I think we all have moments in
14:58
life where our life path splits and the
15:01
journey we thought we were going down
15:03
takes some terrible veers off to some
15:06
terrible direction that we never
15:08
anticipated and we certainly didn't want
15:11
it happened to me it was awful beyond
15:16
imagining if you ever find yourself in a
15:20
situation where you think there's no way
15:23
I'm coming back from this I urge you to
15:27
lean into these strategies and
15:30
again I won't pretend that thinking this
15:35
way is easy and it doesn't remove all
15:40
the pain but if I've learned anything
15:42
over the last five years it is that
15:47
thinking this way really does help more
15:50
than anything it has shown me that it is
15:54
possible to live and grieve at the same
15:59
time and for that I will be always
16:02
grateful thank you
16:05
[Applause]
16:06
[Music]
00:05
[Applause]
00:09
[Music]
00:14
[Music]
00:16
so I'd like to start if I may by asking
00:19
you some questions if you've ever lost
00:23
someone you truly love ever had your
00:26
heart broken ever struggled through an
00:29
acrimonious divorce or being the victim
00:32
of infidelity please stand up if
00:35
standing up isn't accessible to you you
00:38
can put your hand up
00:39
please stay standing and keep your hand
00:42
up there if you've ever lived through a
00:45
natural disaster being bullied or me
00:47
made redundant stand on up if you've
00:50
ever had a miscarriage if you've ever
00:53
had an abortion or struggle through
00:56
infertility please stand up finally if
01:00
you or anyone you love has had to cope
01:04
with mental illness dementia some form
01:07
of physical impairment or cope with
01:09
suicide please stand up
01:12
look around you adversity doesn't
01:18
discriminate if you are alive you are
01:22
going to have to or you've already had
01:25
to deal with some tough times
01:28
thank you everyone take a seat I started
01:35
studying resilience research a decade
01:37
ago at the University of Pennsylvania in
01:40
Philadelphia it was an amazing time to
01:43
be there because the professors who
01:45
trained me had just picked up the
01:48
contract to train all 1.1 million
01:51
American soldiers to be as mentally fit
01:54
as they always have been physically fit
01:57
as you can imagine you don't get a much
02:00
more skeptical discerning audience than
02:03
the American drill sergeants returning
02:05
from Afghanistan so for someone like me
02:08
whose main quest in life is trying to
02:10
work out how we take
02:13
the best of scientific findings out of
02:15
academia and bring them to people in
02:17
their everyday lives it was a pretty
02:20
inspiring place to be I finished my
02:23
studies in America and I returned home
02:26
here to Christchurch to start my
02:29
doctoral research I just begun that
02:32
study when the Christchurch earthquakes
02:35
hit so I put my research on hold and I
02:39
started working with my home community
02:41
to help them through that terrible
02:44
post-quake period I work with all sorts
02:48
of organizations from government
02:49
departments to building companies and
02:52
all sorts of community groups teaching
02:54
them the ways of thinking and acting
02:57
that we know boost resilience I thought
03:01
that was my calling my moment to put all
03:05
of that research to good use but sadly I
03:10
was wrong for my own true test came in
03:15
2014 on queen's birthday weekend we and
03:19
two other families had decided to go
03:22
down to Lake ohel and bike the outs to
03:25
ocean at the last minute my beautiful
03:29
twelve-year-old daughter Abby decided to
03:32
hop in the car with her best friend Ella
03:34
also 12 and Ella's mom Sally a dear dear
03:38
friend of mine on the way down as they
03:42
traveled through require on Thompson's
03:44
track a car sped through a stop sign
03:48
crashing into them and killing all three
03:52
of them instantly in the blink of an eye
03:57
I find myself flung to the other side of
04:00
the equation waking up with a whole new
04:02
identity instead of being the resilience
04:05
expert suddenly I'm the grieving mother
04:09
waking up not knowing who I am
04:12
trying to wrap my head around
04:13
unthinkable news my world smashed to
04:17
smithereens
04:18
suddenly I'm the one on the end of all
04:21
this expert advice and I can tell you I
04:24
didn't like what I heard
04:26
little bit in the days after Abby died
04:30
we were told we were now prime
04:33
candidates for family estrangement that
04:36
we were likely to get divorced and we
04:39
were at high risk of mental illness Wow
04:42
I remember thinking thanks for that I
04:44
thought my life was already pretty [ __ ]
04:47
leaflets described the five stages of
04:50
grief
04:51
anger bargaining denial depression
04:53
acceptance victim support arrived at our
04:56
door and told us that we could expect to
04:58
write off the next five years to grief I
05:02
know the leaflets and the resources
05:05
meant well but in all of that advice
05:08
they left us feeling like victims
05:12
totally overwhelmed by the journey ahead
05:14
and powerless to exert any influence
05:16
over our grieving whatsoever I didn't
05:21
need to be told how bad things were
05:24
believe me I already knew things were
05:27
truly terrible what I needed most
05:30
was hope I needed a journey through all
05:36
that anguish pain and longing most of
05:40
all I wanted to be an active participant
05:43
in my grief process so I decided to turn
05:48
my back on their advice and decided
05:50
instead to conduct something of a self
05:53
experiment I'd done the research I had
05:56
the tools I wanted to know how useful
05:58
they were beating me now in the face of
06:00
such an enormous mountain to climb now I
06:04
have to confess at this point I didn't
06:07
really know any of this was going to
06:08
work
06:09
parental bereavement is widely
06:11
acknowledged as the hardest of losses to
06:15
bear but I can tell you now five years
06:19
on what I already knew from the research
06:22
that you can rise up from adversity that
06:27
there are strategies that work that it
06:30
is utterly possible to make yourself
06:33
think and act in certain ways that help
06:37
you navigate
06:39
tough times there is a monumental body
06:43
of research on how to do this stuff
06:45
today I'm just going to share with you
06:48
three strategies these are my go-to
06:51
strategies that I relied upon and saved
06:54
me in my darkest days there are three
06:57
strategies that underpin all of my work
06:59
and they're pretty readily available to
07:02
us all anyone can learn them you can
07:05
learn them right here today so number
07:08
one resilient people get that [ __ ]
07:12
happens they know that suffering is part
07:16
of life this doesn't mean they actually
07:18
welcome it in they're not actually
07:20
delusional just that when the tough
07:23
times come they seem to know that
07:27
suffering is part of every human
07:30
existence and knowing this stops you
07:33
from feeling discriminated against when
07:36
the tough times come never once did I
07:39
find myself thinking why me in fact I
07:43
remember thinking why not me terrible
07:46
things happen to you just like they do
07:48
everybody else that's your life now time
07:51
to sink or swim the real tragedy is that
07:55
not enough of us seem to know this any
07:58
longer we seem to live in an age where
08:00
we're entitled to a perfect life we're
08:02
shiny happy photos on Instagram are the
08:05
norm when actually as you all
08:08
demonstrated at the start of my talk the
08:12
very opposite is true
08:15
number two resilient people are really
08:21
good at choosing carefully where they
08:25
select their attention they have a habit
08:29
of realistically appraising situations
08:32
and typically managing to focus on the
08:35
things that they can change and somehow
08:38
accept the things that they can't this
08:43
is a vital learn herbal skill for
08:47
resilience as humans we are really
08:52
good at noticing threats and weaknesses
08:56
we are hard-wired for that negative
09:00
we're really really good at noticing
09:03
them negative emotions stick to us like
09:07
velcro whereas positive emotions and
09:10
experiences seem to bounce off like
09:12
Teflon being wired in this way is
09:16
actually really good for us and served
09:18
us well from an evolutionary perspective
09:20
so imagine for a moment I'm a cave woman
09:23
and I'm coming out of a cave in the
09:25
morning and there's a saber-toothed
09:27
tiger on one side and a beautiful
09:29
rainbow on the other it kind of pays for
09:32
my survival for me to notice this tiger
09:35
the problem is we now live in an era
09:38
where we are constantly bombarded by
09:41
threats all day long and our poor brains
09:44
treat every single one of those threats
09:48
as though they were a tiger our threat
09:52
focus our stress response is permanently
09:56
dialed up resilient people don't
10:00
diminish the negative but they also have
10:03
worked out a way of tuning in to the
10:07
good one day when doubts were
10:11
threatening to overwhelm me I distinctly
10:14
remember thinking no you do not get to
10:18
get swallowed up by this you have to
10:21
survive you've got so much to live for
10:24
choose life not death don't lose what
10:29
you have to what you have lost in
10:32
psychology we call this benefit finding
10:35
in my brave new world it involved trying
10:38
to find things to be grateful for at
10:41
least our week girl hadn't died of some
10:44
terrible long drawn-out illness she died
10:47
suddenly instantly sparing us and her
10:51
that pain we had a huge amount of social
10:55
support from family and friends to help
10:56
us through and most of all we still had
11:00
two beautiful boys to live for who
11:03
needed us now and
11:05
deserve to have as normal a life as we
11:08
could possibly give them being able to
11:12
switch the focus of your attention to
11:15
also include the good has been shown by
11:18
science to be a really powerful strategy
11:20
so in 2005 Marty Seligman and collies
11:24
conducted an experiment and they asked
11:27
people all they ask people to do was
11:30
think of three good things that had
11:32
happened to them
11:33
each day what they found over the six
11:37
months course of this study was that
11:39
those people showed higher levels of
11:41
gratitude higher levels of happiness and
11:43
less depression over the course of the
11:47
six months study when you're going
11:49
through grief you might need a reminder
11:52
or you might need permission to feel
11:55
grateful in our kitchen we've got a
11:57
bright pink neon poster that reminds us
12:00
to accept the good in the American army
12:03
they framed it a little bit differently
12:06
they talked to the army about hunting
12:09
the good stuff find the language that
12:11
works for you but whatever you do make
12:13
an intentional deliberate ongoing effort
12:18
to tune in to what's good in your world
12:21
number three resilient people ask
12:24
themselves is what I'm doing helping or
12:27
harming me this is a question that's
12:30
used a lot in good therapy and boy is it
12:34
powerful this was my go-to question in
12:38
the days after the girls died I would
12:41
ask it again and again should I go to
12:45
the trial and see the driver would that
12:48
help me or would it harm me well that
12:51
was a no-brainer for me I chose to stay
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away but Trevor my husband decided to
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meet with the driver at a later time
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late at night I'd find myself sometimes
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poring over old photos of a be getting
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more and more upset I'd ask myself
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really is this helping you or is it
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harming you put away the photos go to
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bed for the night be kind to yourself
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this question can be applied to so many
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different context is the way I'm
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thinking and acting helping or harming
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you in your bid to get that promotion to
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pass that exam to recover from a heart
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attack so many different ways I write a
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lot about resilience and over the years
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this one strategy has prompted more
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positive feedback than any other I get
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scores of letters and emails and things
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from all over the place of people saying
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what a huge impact it's had on their
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lives whether it is forgiving family
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ancient transgressions arguments from
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Christmases past on whether it is just
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trolling through social media whether it
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is asking yourself whether you really
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need that extra glass of wine asking
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yourself whether what you're doing the
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way you're thinking the way you're
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acting is helping or harming you puts
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you back in the driver's seat it gives
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you some control over your
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decision-making three strategies pretty
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simple they're readily available to us
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all Anytime Anywhere
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they don't require rocket science
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resilience isn't some fixed trait it's
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not elusive that some people have and
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some people don't
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it's actually requires very ordinary
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processes just the willingness to give
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them a go I think we all have moments in
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life where our life path splits and the
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journey we thought we were going down
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takes some terrible veers off to some
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terrible direction that we never
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anticipated and we certainly didn't want
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it happened to me it was awful beyond
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imagining if you ever find yourself in a
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situation where you think there's no way
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I'm coming back from this I urge you to
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lean into these strategies and
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again I won't pretend that thinking this
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way is easy and it doesn't remove all
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the pain but if I've learned anything
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over the last five years it is that
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thinking this way really does help more
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than anything it has shown me that it is
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possible to live and grieve at the same
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time and for that I will be always
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grateful thank you
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[Applause]
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